ÌI despise the Groyper movement.
However, if you want to understand where Nick Fuentes gets purchase with young men I will tell you how it happened by telling you about my experience at the orientation night when my son joined elementary school band:
My 11 year old son son joined the elementary school band, and so I went to the parents orientation night which was held at a local high-school. As the night went on it became obvious to me why young men rage against the larger social system. The classrooms were inundated with DEI messages and trans pride flags. On the walls there were posters, stickers and various decorations that all invoked the various totems if diversity. Black lives matter messaging, decolonization messaging, LGBTQ+ messaging, and basically ever sort of race and gender social justice messaging you can imagine was present. The advertisements for post secondary opportunities featured social justice education prominently, including advertising a course on indigenous ways of knowing” as something grade 12 students should pursue upon graduation. Many of the teachers has “this is a safe space” sticker son their doors, and others had variations of “in this house” messaging on their doors or on the walls of the classroom. The entire aesthetic which dominated the decoration of classrooms was the progressive leftist coded “in this house” and “be kind” aesthetic.
As soon as you walked into a classroom there was no doubt as the the political leanings of whichever teacher occupied that classroom. The only way I can describe it is to say that progressive social justice activists have colonized the school and marked their territory. A woman in a mask (who was in charge) got up and read a number of land acknowledgements before acknowledging the contribution of indigenous people to ways of knowing. Standard leftist land acknowledgement boilerplate. Additionally, every interaction was done in the style of HR style professionalism mixed with progressive leftist coded gentle parenting.
When it comes to how the teachers behaved I am going to draw on both that night and the other times I have been at my sons school in order to explain it. To begin, the boys are treated almost as though they are defective girls. The feminine modes of interaction and socialization are treated as though they are the only legitimate modes of interaction and serve as the taken for granted way to properly interact and navigate the world. Almost all the authority figures at my sons school are women with almost no exceptions.
One day my son found out that the school had hired a single male education Assistant, and my son came home and told me, in wondrous amazement, that he saw a “boy teacher” at school. The level of wonderment and surprise he expressed was on par with what I would expect if he had walked into school and seen a triceratops walking the hallways. My son often comes home from school and expresses utter frustration at the fact that his preferred way of communicating, as well as the things that are aligned with his temperament are treated as though they were somehow inferior. As he is 11 (and being assessed for autism) he lacks the correct technical language to describe this, so it generally shows up as him getting in trouble for being insufficiently “gentle” and “kind” in response to various passive aggressive power plays and instances of bullying carries out by his more socially developed (often) female peers.
To say that the parents night for school band was feminine coded would be an understatement. It would be more accurate to say that feminized modes of behavior and communication were embedded in every single interaction. It was a totally alien environment for anyone who isn’t well versed in navigating the social codes of progressive leftist institutional spaces. It was like the slogan “the future is female” was taken to be a command delivered from God Himself turned into an education program. Now, I want you to imagine what it is like for an 11 year old boy to be saturated in that environment day after day. he is an alien in his own school who is treated essentially like a ticking time bomb who needs to be effectively managed rather than engaged with an taught, and he knows this is happening. It is hard to overstate the level of hostility towards boys that is floating around in the ambient culture of the school system. It isn’t so much that there is an explicit form of anti-male bigotry (although examples of that exist) it is more that there is an overall attitude of distaste for anything masculine and an utter indifference towards the interests, fortunes, and inner lives of young boys. The expectations, norms, rules, and standards of behavior cater to the sensibilities of girls and women. This is the entire social system that a young boy goes through from when he is 6 years old all the way until he is graduated from university.
It’s an old trope on the right to say “imagine if the roles were reversed,” but that would be to miss the point. I know that many on the left will say that all of this is perfectly acceptable because of historical injustices and the pursuit of Social Justice. What I want to point out to you is how absurd the world must appear through the eyes of the average 11 year-old boy. He is basically told he has a host of social advantages (white privilege, male privilege, straight privilege, etc) that he has never experienced and will never benefit from, and this justifies the system which he is immersed in. And the worst part is, if young men point any of this out, the very people who are doing it will look them in the eye with a straight face and deny that any of this ever happened. Making matters worse these men begin to figure out that the institutions have been used to advance a leftist political agenda that scapegoated their group (young white men), and when they point this out everyone in authority calls them evil bigots.
And all this happens during their formative years.
Now, Imagine you are a young white male. You graduate from the school system and are released into the world only to find that the feminine modes of socialization pushed on you are entirely unfit for purpose. That the social skills you were taught fail utterly in both the job markets young men tend towards (construction, engineering, building, landscaping, etc) and have no purchase in the dating market where highly agentic, masculine, wealthy men have a huge advantage over the passive, docile “nice boy.” On top of that, imagine that a great deal of the job listings that you peruse make it clear that preference will be given to women and “diverse” candidates, and that the job interview itself is full of shibboleths, coded statements, and trap questions meant to elicit responses that allow the hiring party to exclude anyone who isn’t sufficiently versed in and aligned with the priorities of the DEI/Woke/Social Justice paradigm. On top of that, that if a you do get a job you will exposed to various sensitivity trainings, DEI trainings, and intersectionality workshops in which your group (straight white men) are repeatedly scapegoated as the source of all the worlds pathologies. Laid at your feet are patriarchy, colonialism, racism, sexism and a great number of other social evils for which you are taken to be complicit in and have a responsibility for fixing in virtue of being a white male. While all this is going on a series of scandals (COVID, Men in womens’ sports, trans kids, etc) reveal to you the degree to which the institutions that make up the society you live in have adopted an ideology that is actively hostile to you because you are a straight white male, and have been denying you opportunity while scapegoating you for all societies problems and treating you like you are a defective girl.
Once you understand this, the real question is not “why are some young men radicalizing?” the real question is “why are there any young men at all who have not been radicalized?”
None of this is to excuse any of the extremist radicals who are attempting to harness the resentment and anger of young men for their evil purposes. The point is to get you to understand why young men will attach themselves to any voice who is willing to stridently call for the obliteration of the social system and ideology which lied to them during their formative years and is currently doing things which rob them of opportunities for advancement and success. The institutions have totally blown their credibility with young men, and have completely destroyed young men’s trust in institutions. Young men view the current set of social institutions as ideologically corrupt and totally illegitimate, and they view the narratives that emerge from those institutions as being expressions of as nothing more then a story told to legitimize an ideology which seeks to hold them back. As such, the institutions and their narratives have absolutely no normative pull on young Gen Z men.
I am not saying the situation is hopeless, but unless you acknowledge what I have laid out here, and engage in a good faith attempt to understand what the school system, Universities, non-profits, HR departments, and other civic institutions have done to young men, you will never be able to gain their trust enough to lead them away from guys like Nick Fuentes, Andrew Tate, Andrew Torba, and other pathological influences.
One of the reasons that Jordan Peterson became so wildly popular in 2016 is that he spoke so loudly and clearly to the struggles that young men were being forced to go through, and he did it in a way that was healthy. Jordan Peterson encouraged young men to take responsibility, to make something of themselves, to avoid bitterness, to put their lives together and, once they had done that, make some contribution to the world. Not only did he tell them to make something of themselves, but he told them that they COULD make something of themselves. He told them that they were not evil racist oppressors who needed to step aside, they were men who could and should make themselves into people who could be trusted to make contributions to the world and to take up places of authority and responsibility…and that this was a good thing to do. In essence, Jordan Peterson became the at large mentor figure for young men on the political right and in the political center.
Over the last few years Dr. Peterson has fallen ill and this has left the space of “at large father figure and mentor for young men” wide open, and a number of influencers are trying to take advantage of this fact and exploit the void that was left by Dr. Peterson’s absence. Influencers with large followings on social media can gain currency amongst teenage boys quite quickly, and unlike college aged men (Jordan Peterson’s initial audience) high-school boys are far more likely to gravitate towards crass humor than the university lectures Jordan Peterson became famous for. For this reason Nick Fuentes can hook teen-aged boys with crass humor and taboo breaking long before they ever develop the maturity, patience, and intellectual ability to digest lectures by someone like Jordan Peterson.
The upshot of all this is that in order to prevent young men from falling down the Nick Fuentes rabbit hole, we need to make an honest play for teen-aged boys, and we need to do it in a way that appeals to them on their own terms. Because nick Fuentes is already doing that, and if we don’t start competing for that audience Fuentes strength is only going to grow.



I went to a treatment centre for drugs and alcohol. Upon arriving, I was asked If I identified as a woman (I am balding, have a beard and am basically a handsome middle aged man). When I said no, why? I was informed that they have a women's group. Ok.
So i get put in the "men's" group, which begins every session reminding a bunch of obviously straight white men, with a few natives (Canada), to respect all races, gender identities, sexism and misogyny will not be tolerated, etc. Every session. They wanted to really "set the tone" I guess. I was also straight-facedly asked if I identify as a woman when I went to the wrong room one day, and a women's craft session or something was happening. They would have happily let me sit down and join. It was surreal. There were posters everywhere welcoming gay, trans, pansexual (whatever that is) etc. In every room.
The place was run ENTIRELY by women with a few very feminine gay men on staff. We started every morning doing energy work where we held rocks like quartz and whatever to balance our chakras. I am not exaggerating or making any of this up. This between refrains of "evidence based" treatment. They had obvious disdain for 12 step programs. These were denounced as unscientific and insufficiently inclusive and too judgemental. (Nothing could be further from, in fact they hate AA because of the emphasis on personal responsibility, humility God, and most of all, that it isn't run by the government). The place was decorated top to bottom with Native American art, notably all by women and very feminine, which was lovely but with all white women running a government funded institution it seemed extremely phony. There was not a hint of masculine sensibility anywhere at all. The atmosphere was like an all-girls primary school.
The woman in charge was a sex therapist. You can imagine her takes. Sex-positive to the max. At all times was there talk of safe spaces and other very left coded language. It was utterly absurd to see the young men there, many of whom had been in jail, foster care etc. and looked it, from their body language, clothes and the grim look on their faces, who worked in construction, or were just street criminals, in this environment. All of us were comically out of place. It was totally ridiculous, like Kindergarten Cop or something. Having all these rough guys in this uber-feminine environment doing this stuff being led by 25 year old upper class university educated women who knew nothing about life amounted to a daily ritual humiliation. They seemed oblivious that this was all totally crazy.
I would add to your piece, the horror of the inevitable battle not to consume or be influenced by the language, culture and imagery of modern internet pornography your son is about to face. To make matters worse will be the insane gaslighting that it is either healthy or merely a waste of time, and not a demoralizing attack on his psyche and healthy sexual development. This will happen before his first date. These ghouls want him totally emasculated. And they will be smugly triumphalist about the banishment of discovering sex with a girl that likes you (or heaven forbid a wife) to the dustbin of history. All of the young men in the treatment centre were badly damaged by pornography. This was easily discerned from their language and attitude. I am talking about 28 year old men making loud orgasm type noises in mixed company daily, as some kind of running joke.
This attitude was paramount in this institution. In any case, the mere fact of a searchable database of grown women (and teenage girls!) having orgasms all over the internet have haunted these young men's thoughts for years, supplanting the eons-old, much more vague and mysterious (and healthy!) notions of sex teen boys harboured for millennia. It surely depressed and demoralized the good ones, and made the rest depraved and vulgar, as much as the staff around them denied and co-signed it.
The staff would laugh along, as this was not an example of "toxic masculinity" apparently, precisely becuase it was sexual (and therefore good), and because it was such a disgrace to the young men themselves. I honestly think the reason for the cavalier dismissal of the harms of this plague amongst many men, and is that many of these upper class sex-positive feminist elites not-so-secretly relish the idea of straight men debasing themselves, having their confidence and dignity taken from them, and becoming feminized degenerates. It's a power trip for them.
It absolutely is a culture war, and the casualties are young men. These guys are in so much trouble. There were very few men leaving there in good shape.
It's not just Gen Z men, either. I'm an elder Millennial. I didn't grow up with DEI as a thing, but the Great Feminization was well underway by the 1990s. "Getting in trouble for being insufficiently 'gentle' and 'kind' in response to various passive aggressive power plays," perfectly encapsulates my experience in post-secondary and professional education and the working world thereafter. Graduating from law school in 2009, the very teeth of the Great Recession did not help matters.
What makes it worse is that the people telling me that were often men, many of whom thought they were trying to uphold some principled position about virtuous conduct, or even doing me a favor. But those same men beclowned themselves during COVID. I have absolutely zero tolerance for being scolded for "lack of gentleness" by pathologically conflict-avoidant men.
Here's the clincher though: it's possible they're even right. But that possibility doesn't matter, because they've completely lost all credibility with me. They call anyone who puts them in a position where they need to make a difficult decision "insufficiently gentle and kind."
The Zeroth Commandment of passive-aggressive "leaders" is, "Thou shalt not put me on the spot."