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Rudolph Rigger's avatar

I remember a dinner with friends and family. I happened to mention Jordan Peterson. I can't remember why he came up, but I made the profound mistake of not frothing at the mouth and denouncing him.

I'd have had a better reaction if I'd jumped on the table, dropped my trousers, and laid a great steaming fresh one.

It was, in retrospect, a 'learned' reaction - almost Pavlovian. Hearing the words 'Jordan Peterson' triggered a visceral response not based in rationality. This was evident when I asked what he'd said that was hateful, that justified their extreme negativity. There were no concrete examples, just *assertions* that he was a really, really, bad, godawful person.

At one point during the ensuing 'discussion' a family member turned to me and said/shouted "this is why you right wingers always win the debate - you're just so calm and rational"

This was not meant as a compliment because after he said it, he stormed off out of the restaurant to calm down. And I was fascinated by his assertion that I'm a right-winger, not that there's anything wrong at all with being on the right wing, but I have traditionally been more on the 'left' side of things (the old 'left', not this weird fucked-up new 'left').

It was an eye-opening experience for me, and my first personal experience of the difficulty of actually having a fruitful conversation with people who are ideologically possessed (to use a term I learned from JBP).

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Sathanas Juggernaut's avatar

In other words, they don't care about what is true only what suits their needs in a given situation, even if that requires utterly contradicting a previous position.

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