It’s not anti-semitic to oppose zionism and not a conspiracy that the Israel lobby and zionists have huge influence over the upper levels of US government. Anyone with half a brain (Jewish or gentile) knows this. Haven’t heard of ZOG but equating anti-semitism with zionism is dangerous and manipulative, regardless of the attempts to push the idea.
True, anti-zionism and anti-semitism are not exactly the same. Indeed, there are many non-Israeli Jews who are anti-zionist. However, I think it would be accurate to say, although anti-zionists are not necessarily anti-semites, all anti-semites are anti-zionist. Since anti-zionism is more generally "acceptable" and more commonly publicly declared, my first question is whether or not it's being used as a cover for anti-semitism. And, indeed, anti-semitism is built into Muslim and a large segment of major Christian theologies.
Antisemitism is cheap shaming language tactics used to shut down questions and or criticism of Israel. It was used by wealthy/influential Jews along with the holocaust to shut people up who otherwise may have had legitimate questions and or criticisms.
Of all 400+ ethnicities on this planet only one needs it's own special term for what all others call racism and that is the Jews. To be very clear it's not all jews or even a plethora but those who are amongst the most wealthy and influential who seek to use the plight of Jews during the holocaust for their own selfish ends. There was a 60 minutes segment (20+ years ago) where one of the reporters was asking people in a Jewish community a variety of questions mostly to do with the holocaust. One elderly women who looked at the time like she may have been in the death camps as a very young child, was asked about the term antisemitism. Even she knew it's real goal and told the reporter it's used as shaming language.
If you need more evidence of this, the only ethnic group on the planet you can not criticize if you want to bid on state level contracts in many US states are the Jews/Israel. You can bad mouth all other groups all you like without fear of loosing the ability to bid on government contracts but you best not speak ill of the jews/Israel. I say that as one who knows the Muslim world is the largest threat to western civilization so this isn't about being pro one group, anti the other. Add to that, there are now efforts underway to scan foreigners social media posts for any anti-Israel comments or ideas like as if that should have any impact on whether or not someone is allowed in the US. Jews are a very resilient people so why does America need to give them special/preferential treatment like this?
When I hear 'antisemite" I hear "I'm going to try and using shaming language b/c you've said something about Israel and or Jews that they do not like but know that racism is too common a term to use". It is possible to be indifferent about Israel and Jews without being hateful of them. They may have the most recent incident (historically speaking) of wide scale hatred of one group by another but they certainly are NOT the only group to be the victim of another including one of genocide,.
I’m curious who you mean by dissident right. It’s really hard to get the groups and their names defined. I think of Auron MacIntyre and Kruptos or even Joel Webbon, but maybe they aren’t what you’d consider dissident right? The reason I ask is your comment on “noticing.” That they claim the public needs to “notice.” But from years of listening to these folks I mention, their argument is that there’s just a war on noticing. That the opposition (progressive left) seeks to argue against what’s plainly true and wise as shown in history for centuries. And that they (the dissident podcasters) are simply pointing out this wisdom is still wisdom and will always be wisdom and that there’s not any “hidden wisdom” we’ve unlocked as a society through advances in education and technology like the progressives believe in.
If my assumption on what you mean by dissident is incorrect, no problem, but I’d like to know who you put in that camp. Again, right now where there’s so much competition for influence on the right, I think it’s really important to be as precise as possible and maybe give some examples.
Very interesting to read. What I was thinking is that digital literacy,or knowing how to approach information (I think Chomsky is great for this), is an essential factor in analyzing how most people interact with cultural content, and it wasn’t even mentioned. Thank you for sharing.
I’m not sure if I like the definition of a conspiracy theory. Searching for confirmation of one’s theory is normal and needed, the issues is when you’re ONLY looking for confirmation and don’t try to test your theory out. For example, the theory of structural domination of the capital would be a conspiracy theory by those standards while being completely valid economic theory.
Other than that, I like the flow of the post, it was good to read.
This is very easy to validate or refute and I can only speak to American politics so this may not be applicable elsewhere.
Within American politics there are effectively 2 parties. Between the 2 which party see's the most user conformity? Which party has the least if any dissenters?
A: The Democrat party has the most conformity ergo the most effective brainwashing of it's party members. One need only look at the most recent 180 the party has done going form praising/loving Tesla & Musk and about how Tesla was going to save the planet to now claiming he's trying to destroy it and they vandalize the same cars they praised but 2 years earlier. Within a 24 hour time period they went from "Biden is the smartest moist physically fit president in history" to "Yeah he needs to step down b/c he's not fully their mentally and we need Harris for the win". They even accepted their party selecting the nominee vs electing them.
Not convinced? :let's look at it form the other perspective. Are MAGA/Trump supporters mindless NPCs that do as instructed? If so they are bad at it as most of his supporters refuse to say anything positive about the covid vaccine, operation warp speed, that he has yet to stop claiming is "Winning". Historically speaking, the Democrat/Left has had greater success with moving their agenda forward b/c few will dissent from party leadership where as the Republic/Right routinely have decent. It is the force-multiplier that allows the Left to constantly advance their agenda with up until recent, no limits.
In as far as American politics go you're wrong about each side calling the other brainwashed and it not getting us anywhere. What got us nowhere positive for generations in America was the Rights unwillingness to do something that might anger the left especially the news media that they predominantly control. The Right has been so worried about acceptance that for generations they've been bending over and taking it from the Left. Today they no longer are taking it b/c Trump inspired them, showed them that no matter what you do the other side will hate and despise you and call you everything in the book so screw'em!
In America the Democrat/Left absolutely are brainwashed not necessarily b/c they can't think for themselves but b/c if they can or can't they still act as one mindless hive. I've provided 2 examples and they are just 2 of many so this isn't some rare one-off either. Within 1 generation the went from being pro-blue collar anti-corporate to the party that worships/protects the corporate world and whom no longer believe you have free speech rights.
Well thought out and articulated. There is enough real stuff going on in the open that we do not need to be distracted by wild conspiracies.
I do have a couple of suggestions...
- I understand that leftist conspiracy theories are more commonly known, but I think it would be helpful for you to have thrown in more examples from the conservative side. As I read, being myself conservative, I thought of many of which I've been guilty.
- It seems like some more attention to proofing your manuscript would be helpful. There are several instances of missing articles and prepositions.
I've noticed this, that everyone is brainwashed but me.
It’s not anti-semitic to oppose zionism and not a conspiracy that the Israel lobby and zionists have huge influence over the upper levels of US government. Anyone with half a brain (Jewish or gentile) knows this. Haven’t heard of ZOG but equating anti-semitism with zionism is dangerous and manipulative, regardless of the attempts to push the idea.
True, anti-zionism and anti-semitism are not exactly the same. Indeed, there are many non-Israeli Jews who are anti-zionist. However, I think it would be accurate to say, although anti-zionists are not necessarily anti-semites, all anti-semites are anti-zionist. Since anti-zionism is more generally "acceptable" and more commonly publicly declared, my first question is whether or not it's being used as a cover for anti-semitism. And, indeed, anti-semitism is built into Muslim and a large segment of major Christian theologies.
Antisemitism is cheap shaming language tactics used to shut down questions and or criticism of Israel. It was used by wealthy/influential Jews along with the holocaust to shut people up who otherwise may have had legitimate questions and or criticisms.
Of all 400+ ethnicities on this planet only one needs it's own special term for what all others call racism and that is the Jews. To be very clear it's not all jews or even a plethora but those who are amongst the most wealthy and influential who seek to use the plight of Jews during the holocaust for their own selfish ends. There was a 60 minutes segment (20+ years ago) where one of the reporters was asking people in a Jewish community a variety of questions mostly to do with the holocaust. One elderly women who looked at the time like she may have been in the death camps as a very young child, was asked about the term antisemitism. Even she knew it's real goal and told the reporter it's used as shaming language.
If you need more evidence of this, the only ethnic group on the planet you can not criticize if you want to bid on state level contracts in many US states are the Jews/Israel. You can bad mouth all other groups all you like without fear of loosing the ability to bid on government contracts but you best not speak ill of the jews/Israel. I say that as one who knows the Muslim world is the largest threat to western civilization so this isn't about being pro one group, anti the other. Add to that, there are now efforts underway to scan foreigners social media posts for any anti-Israel comments or ideas like as if that should have any impact on whether or not someone is allowed in the US. Jews are a very resilient people so why does America need to give them special/preferential treatment like this?
When I hear 'antisemite" I hear "I'm going to try and using shaming language b/c you've said something about Israel and or Jews that they do not like but know that racism is too common a term to use". It is possible to be indifferent about Israel and Jews without being hateful of them. They may have the most recent incident (historically speaking) of wide scale hatred of one group by another but they certainly are NOT the only group to be the victim of another including one of genocide,.
I’m curious who you mean by dissident right. It’s really hard to get the groups and their names defined. I think of Auron MacIntyre and Kruptos or even Joel Webbon, but maybe they aren’t what you’d consider dissident right? The reason I ask is your comment on “noticing.” That they claim the public needs to “notice.” But from years of listening to these folks I mention, their argument is that there’s just a war on noticing. That the opposition (progressive left) seeks to argue against what’s plainly true and wise as shown in history for centuries. And that they (the dissident podcasters) are simply pointing out this wisdom is still wisdom and will always be wisdom and that there’s not any “hidden wisdom” we’ve unlocked as a society through advances in education and technology like the progressives believe in.
If my assumption on what you mean by dissident is incorrect, no problem, but I’d like to know who you put in that camp. Again, right now where there’s so much competition for influence on the right, I think it’s really important to be as precise as possible and maybe give some examples.
Really enjoyed your episode on Bridget’s podcast!
Very interesting to read. What I was thinking is that digital literacy,or knowing how to approach information (I think Chomsky is great for this), is an essential factor in analyzing how most people interact with cultural content, and it wasn’t even mentioned. Thank you for sharing.
I’m not sure if I like the definition of a conspiracy theory. Searching for confirmation of one’s theory is normal and needed, the issues is when you’re ONLY looking for confirmation and don’t try to test your theory out. For example, the theory of structural domination of the capital would be a conspiracy theory by those standards while being completely valid economic theory.
Other than that, I like the flow of the post, it was good to read.
This is very easy to validate or refute and I can only speak to American politics so this may not be applicable elsewhere.
Within American politics there are effectively 2 parties. Between the 2 which party see's the most user conformity? Which party has the least if any dissenters?
A: The Democrat party has the most conformity ergo the most effective brainwashing of it's party members. One need only look at the most recent 180 the party has done going form praising/loving Tesla & Musk and about how Tesla was going to save the planet to now claiming he's trying to destroy it and they vandalize the same cars they praised but 2 years earlier. Within a 24 hour time period they went from "Biden is the smartest moist physically fit president in history" to "Yeah he needs to step down b/c he's not fully their mentally and we need Harris for the win". They even accepted their party selecting the nominee vs electing them.
Not convinced? :let's look at it form the other perspective. Are MAGA/Trump supporters mindless NPCs that do as instructed? If so they are bad at it as most of his supporters refuse to say anything positive about the covid vaccine, operation warp speed, that he has yet to stop claiming is "Winning". Historically speaking, the Democrat/Left has had greater success with moving their agenda forward b/c few will dissent from party leadership where as the Republic/Right routinely have decent. It is the force-multiplier that allows the Left to constantly advance their agenda with up until recent, no limits.
In as far as American politics go you're wrong about each side calling the other brainwashed and it not getting us anywhere. What got us nowhere positive for generations in America was the Rights unwillingness to do something that might anger the left especially the news media that they predominantly control. The Right has been so worried about acceptance that for generations they've been bending over and taking it from the Left. Today they no longer are taking it b/c Trump inspired them, showed them that no matter what you do the other side will hate and despise you and call you everything in the book so screw'em!
In America the Democrat/Left absolutely are brainwashed not necessarily b/c they can't think for themselves but b/c if they can or can't they still act as one mindless hive. I've provided 2 examples and they are just 2 of many so this isn't some rare one-off either. Within 1 generation the went from being pro-blue collar anti-corporate to the party that worships/protects the corporate world and whom no longer believe you have free speech rights.
Wokal Distance,
Well thought out and articulated. There is enough real stuff going on in the open that we do not need to be distracted by wild conspiracies.
I do have a couple of suggestions...
- I understand that leftist conspiracy theories are more commonly known, but I think it would be helpful for you to have thrown in more examples from the conservative side. As I read, being myself conservative, I thought of many of which I've been guilty.
- It seems like some more attention to proofing your manuscript would be helpful. There are several instances of missing articles and prepositions.